HI! Hey- I never meant all christians were prudes- I just was commenting from personal experience, that I think witnesses who marry as virgins are usually niave- and don't know a whole lot- and the elders in our particular hall advised the young people to go home after the wedding, and rest, sleep together, but not engage in sex- wake up the next day- and do it rested, and not rushed. I have heard so many stories of women who didn't know how big a penis got- or what to expect, or a guy getting so excited- he just stuck it in & was done, or when the girl cried- he stopped, etc. I think "worldy" kids know more about sex before hand. I was totally blinded- my parents kept it all hidden. Just thought there might be more funny stories :-)
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Any Funny Virgin Honeymoon stories?
by Perfection Seeker inanyone have any funny virgin honeymoon stories?
none here- but my brother & his wife- both good witnesses got married- didn't get to complete the act for 6 weeks- his wife had no idea he was so big- and kept crying & was afraid.
just another "well educated" witness girl.
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by erasescars ini am not, nor ever have been, a witness.
i have a very dear friend who is a former (actually still is technically, as i understand it) witness and who is trying to adjust to existence in the "world.
" i am here on this site to better understand the hell she has been subjected to all her life and the hell she is and will still go through on her journey.
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Erasescars-
So, how do you know this exwitness? Whats your relationship? You say you didn't get in on the LOTS OF SEX time when she left the organization, what did you mean by that? What is the difficult times you are going through with her? This forum is to lend an ear, a shoulder- use it!
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Are you more interested now?
by In_between_days ini may be alone here, but are you more interested in jw docrines, change of docrines, watchtowers, km's and othe jw publications now that you are an ex member as opposed to when you were a witness?.
i realised this the other day, when i was cleaning out a wardrobe and there was a "knowledge" book, i got so excited and read the whole thing, looking up scriptures as i went when they were quoted.
(this was accompanied by a soundtrack of consistant scoffs, snorts and "what the hells".?").
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For me- I have NO desire to read the publications! NONE WHATSOEVER! I already proved to myself it wasn't the true religion, and that is good enough for me! That stuff has a way of twisting & turning, and I don't want to waste another MINUTE reading it. But, I see where you guys are coming from! :-)
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What would it take for you to be happy
by kenpodragon inwhat would it take for you to be happy in life?
does it take the fall of the organization, or just one person?
or does it take something else completely unrelated to the witnesses?.
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OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!!! I JUST tried to post this EXACT posting- but it said I had my limit today! Wow- great minds think alike :-) For me, I don't want the organization or any one particular person to fall. My mother is in the organization & SOOOOOOOOOO happy- it TOTALLY works for her. ALOT of people need the mind control & being told how to live, what to do, what to think, etc. I am glad the organization is there for those types of people. Works great for them- didn't for me- but good for them! :-) I am happy in life. I feel free. Still have ties & guilt from family "inside" but happier than I have ever been in my 27 years in. This website is helping me to make a mental break & be mentally free. This website has been a god sent! So, I am happy now :-) Course, a winning lottery ticket would make me REALLY happy............ :-)
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by erasescars ini am not, nor ever have been, a witness.
i have a very dear friend who is a former (actually still is technically, as i understand it) witness and who is trying to adjust to existence in the "world.
" i am here on this site to better understand the hell she has been subjected to all her life and the hell she is and will still go through on her journey.
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Erasescars- I, too, hate that the witness profess to be the ONLY link to god. When I was in the organization, they drilled & drilled & drilled me full of this nonsense. Without being able to read other literature (FORBIDDEN) and have limited "outside" contact with others, it all was taken as gospel, and just "believed" to a certain point. When you're "in' for whatever reason, you place your ENTIRE trust & belief system in the organization. You are taught not to question it, and to go with it, and to believe. You are an outcast if even in your "faith" you ask a questions. So, when you leave, its almost like- we'll, I just lost the ONLY chance at everlasting life! Sad, but ALOT of EXWitnesses turn to drugs, alcohol, sex (LOTS OF SEX-LOL) to kind of dull or numb the pain, and also, because when you're "IN" they say once you leave- you might as well LIVE IT UP, cause once you die- thats it for you- so enjoy life. Alot feel that they lost the direct line to god- so why bother praying, or trying to lead a good, Christian life .Although now I do believe in god- and have a better relationship with him than I EVER did in the organization, when I first left, I did experiment with pot, drinking, & sex. At first, it was out of curiosity, then it got to be like "Hey- why not- nothing matters anymore" I am glad I figured out that there IS a god outside of the organization. It is hard even for my husband to understand the lies & mental torture you go through being "in". Even though I try to tell him- he is like- Ok, its over now- get on with your life. Don't GIVE them anymore power. But, I need to talk about it, and deal with it, and this website is an enormous help. I imagine your friend will always find comfort here. Even when she heals the scars from within- this will be a wonderful support group, to remind her, help her, and be here- unconditionally for her. Sounds like you are that kind of friend for her, as well. She is very lucky to have found you. If you continue to be here friend, you, too, will most likely want to come in here often, so don't think you'll be leaving us soon :-) Bookmark this page, and visit often! :-) By the way- I like your name- erasescars- very very very fitting in here! :-)
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Edited by - perfection seeker on 1 July 2002 13:44:38
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by erasescars ini am not, nor ever have been, a witness.
i have a very dear friend who is a former (actually still is technically, as i understand it) witness and who is trying to adjust to existence in the "world.
" i am here on this site to better understand the hell she has been subjected to all her life and the hell she is and will still go through on her journey.
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Erasescars,
Your friend is truly blessed to have a friend like you :-)
Hang in there with her- she's been through alot. What "outsiders" don't realize, the BS they feed you when your "in" is that if you ever leave, there is NO hope for you, since the witnesses are the one & only direct link to god. If your friend is on this site, then she will find help & guidance, as will you, if you continue to read & educate yourself.
Wishing you & your friend much happiness,
Melissa :-)
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Watchtower Society no longer contact? Why?
by GermanXJW ini noticed that in september 2001 there was a change in the contact adress in the jw literature.. for example, awake!
september 8th, 2001 says on page 5: would you welcome more information?
write watch tower at the appropriate adress.
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FIRE DRAGON & AMAZING- Thanks for the information. I've been curious for some time- but didn't want to probe my mother much- since every question I ask is followed by about 10 hours of preaching. MUCH easier getting the answers here. THANKS :-)
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Watchtower Society no longer contact? Why?
by GermanXJW ini noticed that in september 2001 there was a change in the contact adress in the jw literature.. for example, awake!
september 8th, 2001 says on page 5: would you welcome more information?
write watch tower at the appropriate adress.
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Speaking of changes, why are they no longer mailing out subscriptions? My mom told me its so people APPRECIATE them, the cost of mailing, blah blah blah- and so only active people get them. My sister said it is probably cause Apostates keep getting them- and pointing out errors. Just curious WHY they are stopping. I have thrown mine away for 2 years without even opening them, so no great loss here! :-) ANYONE?
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Old Friends Daughter
by Golden Girl inwell i had a surprise yesterday.
i received a phone call from an old witness friends daughter.i used to watch her a lot and she was almost like one of my own.
her mom had emotional problems and wasn't too fond of kids.
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This is a hard one- on one hand, I wish someone had guided me out earlier. On the other hand, just like someone who needs to diet, but doesn't until the time is right, maybe her time isn't right yet. That would just sever your ties, and cause hard feelings. There are ways to question someone, in efforts to help them, or show them the other flip side of the coin. I guess you gotta ask yourself- how much would she lose & how much would she gain? She has a daughter to think about now, too. Nice she has another "mom" to lean on. She trusts you. Personally, I am MUCH happier out. I would LOVE to "save" my mom, yet she is SOO happy in, and has her support group, etc, and would be TOTALLY lost without it. So, it works for her very well. So, I wouldn't try to talk her out. Its a personal thing. I was NEVER happy in- and miserable. If this lady is happy with her new found renewed interests, let her enjoy it. Most likely will be short lived.
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Straw that broke the Camels Back
by Perfection Seeker inso, whats the straw that broke the camels back in your life?
what was the final last straw that made you say thats it- no more?
i have so many-for 15 years i kept getting that last straw-and trying to ignore it- but i think the last straw was when my dad died- everyone kept (keeps) giving me the line of bs about never seeing him again unless i go to meetings.
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AHHHHHH- thanks for the information! Will get a lawyer on retainer tomorrow- lol! :-) Course, I did like the comment someone wrote about streaking with I QUIT on their butt-lol. I always thought it would be cool for someone who still had priveledges (man- what a crock) to get up front to do a part then start saying negatives :-) But, us "sisters" don't have a lot of room. I guess to me- I think it would be fun to sit at the meeting and when they said anything- like a public talk- say- yeah, right- out loud- a bunch of times till they kicked you out, but you'd have to attend to do that- not worth it :-)